TGGRRR (Ali) Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 After the old bonnet stripes were removed from Tigger I had some ghosting where the paint is not faded where the stripes were. I just finished washing and waxing with Prima's Epic, I used Craig's random orbital buffer and the car looks amazing, but the ghosting is still there. I think I need something grittier to get rid if it and maybe a professional. What do you guys think? If I need a pro, who would you recommend? Ali Tigger 2006 the cabrio and Riversong the 2014 Countryman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustJAY Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 Recommended you someone of FB! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGGRRR (Ali) Posted May 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 I'll go look Tigger 2006 the cabrio and Riversong the 2014 Countryman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvrgeek Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 New stickers. If the paint is faded, you are not going to buff it out. Otherwise, respray. Not what you wanted to hear. Hey, ghost flames are cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGGRRR (Ali) Posted May 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 Not what I wanted to hear When I had my Celica it was red and got really faded. I took it to a detailer and they compounded it so that the paint looked brighter and almost new. I figured I could do something like that again, but maybe the paint will never match back up. Or maybe I can just blur the edges a bit so the old stripes aren't so obvious. Tigger 2006 the cabrio and Riversong the 2014 Countryman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VioletDC Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 Do u remember this stuff back in the day called Color Back? It was good 4 faded (especially red) paint? I dunno if it's still around, but it might help. Just my 2 cents ... 'scuuuuze me while I kiss the sky ~ Jimi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGGRRR (Ali) Posted May 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 I was googling and found some site where a sign shop was talking about removing the ghosting after taking lettering off of a truck. They said I need a good polisher and not to use a compound. So I wrote Prima customer service and asked for a recommendation on a product. If I can't get rid of them, maybe I can at least make it less obvious. In the meantime, Tigger has an amazing shine from the Epic. My husband did his Silver 99 Acura and it looks amazing. I must buy myself a random orbital buffer, I love power tools! Tigger 2006 the cabrio and Riversong the 2014 Countryman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VioletDC Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 I love power tools! Me, 2! :top: 'scuuuuze me while I kiss the sky ~ Jimi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMatarella Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 I have a most of a can of color back sitting at home if anyone wants it. Had it for the van... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvrgeek Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Problem is, the faded paint in UNDER the clearcoat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGGRRR (Ali) Posted May 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 That's what my husband keeps telling me, but I have to at least try and see if I can make a difference. I spoke to the guy at Prima who told me to use the Prima finish and a white polish pad with the random orbital buffer. The ghosting isn't really bad, I just want to see if I can minimize it. What is the difference between paint oxidizing vs fading or is that the same thing? Ali Tigger 2006 the cabrio and Riversong the 2014 Countryman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maacodale Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Well, my 30 years in the body business might help. What's happened is the color has been bleached out by the sun, even though it's clear coated. Kinda like the reason plants grow in a green house. The suns UV rays still affect the pigments in the paint, and with orange being a shade of red and reds not being super UV resistant, the color gets bleached out. Since the stripes hid the color from the sun, it didn't get bleached out like the non bonnet striped area, so basically it was still new color under there. I don't think you're gonna bring any color back to that area. More stripes might be the only answer short of a repaint. Though DuPont matches hot orange nicely. As for the Celica, Toyota didn't clear coat their red until the late 90's, though they should have much earlier. They'd start out red then fade to a nice lipstick pick! But with no clear, you could buff through the fade and expose new paint and start all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmcveay Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 I was waiting for Dale to weigh in. Nothing like have a resident expert in the group my it out on the line... Maybe Mike can work something into the flames to obscure it? Dale - what do you know about the MINI emblems on the 2nd Gen cars? I think the rear is applied with adhesive tape, what about the front? Tks, Craig 2014 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon "Homer" 2012 MB/CR JCW R55 "Merlin" Sold 2009 LB/LB R56 "Archie" Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGGRRR (Ali) Posted May 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 sigh..... Since I have the stuff I'll still try, but I won't expect much. :banghead: Really you can't even see the ghosting till you stand right in front of it. Ali Tigger 2006 the cabrio and Riversong the 2014 Countryman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maacodale Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Make sure you find me and my Clubman Sunday and I'll have a look at TGGRR. Opinions and Answers are free. Correct answers are a bit more. Craig, All the meblems on the MINI's are adhesive and easily removable. Just go slow and easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGGRRR (Ali) Posted May 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Thanks Dale! Tigger 2006 the cabrio and Riversong the 2014 Countryman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvrgeek Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I would not "give it a try" until you have our resident pro (above) look at it, unless you are ready for a re-spray. As an ammature who has only painted a couple of cars, I can fully attest how easy it is to mess it up with a buffer. Oooo. I want one of those nifty little PorterCables..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGGRRR (Ali) Posted May 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I can wait till Dale looks at it. I just ordered the Porter Cable, should be here any day now. Ali Tigger 2006 the cabrio and Riversong the 2014 Countryman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maacodale Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Where did you get your Porter cable from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGGRRR (Ali) Posted May 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Detailers Domain Jim found them on sale for 20% off so including shipping and I think some basic pads it was $160. Ali Tigger 2006 the cabrio and Riversong the 2014 Countryman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VioletDC Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 OOOoooooo, I loooove Tigger's new sigpic! :top::top::top: 'scuuuuze me while I kiss the sky ~ Jimi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGGRRR (Ali) Posted May 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Thanks Audrey!! I love it too Tigger 2006 the cabrio and Riversong the 2014 Countryman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmcveay Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 I like the craftsman that I loaned you. It was under $100 and uses the same batteries as my drill, sander, vacuum, jigsaw, skill saw and work light! That makes life a little easier. 2014 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon "Homer" 2012 MB/CR JCW R55 "Merlin" Sold 2009 LB/LB R56 "Archie" Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGGRRR (Ali) Posted May 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 I liked it too Craig and I have taken very good care of it, but I wanted a corded one because the battery one is kind of heavy. I figured a corded one should weigh a bit less. Ali Tigger 2006 the cabrio and Riversong the 2014 Countryman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvrgeek Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Lets see, I send the Autosport speedo back and I can get the PorterCable. I have a good excuse as I need to paint my wife's 98 Civic. Canada car, early water paint and it is failing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
